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PostPosted: Mon Jan 07, 2013 9:51 am 

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Good Morning,

If a recipe calls for Dimethicone as an option, may I use Cyclomethicone as a replacement?

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclomethicone
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I have used it as a sub and it worked fine. What product are you making?

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclomethicone
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Thanks for the quick reply. I had a recipe for some after shave lotion. The recipe also calls for a lot of very expensive anti aging ingredients. Do you add any anti-aging ingredients to your lotions?

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 Post subject: Re: Cyclomethicone
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 Post subject: Re: Cyclomethicone
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Cyclo and Dim are in the same family - they are both silicones - they are water-repellent film formers. In an after shave lotion the purpose would be to create an occlusive film to prevent water loss. Cyclo is not a good choice for that since it is a transient conditioner - it evaporates rapidly into the air.


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclomethicone
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You're welcome. Cyclomethicone works great in hair conditioners, by the way, giving superb detangling. About 1 to 1.5% usage.
Oh, BTW - in an aftershave I'd probably like to put some aloe vera and calendula extracts, to counter inflammation and soothe.


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 Post subject: Re: Cyclomethicone
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Thanks Barquentine!

What would you use to give the lotion a silky feel?

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For lotion, you can use hydrolized silk.

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Yes, hydrolysed silk would work fine. For a silky feeling using an emollient, you can try kpnangan butter. Sometimes called 'golden shea'. Unfortunately it can be a bit hard to obtain. It imparts a lovely 'dry' silky feel to the skin. I much prefer it to shea but I hesitate to specify it as an ingredient and I certainly would never soap with it, just because it is hard to guarantee having it in stock. The original ingredient that you noted, the dimethicone petrolatum (comes as a powder, is incorporated into the oil phase, typically use 0.2 - 0.5%) imparts a dry, silky feel.


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