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Teach Soap • View topic - Even the well known books get it wrong!!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:43 am 
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Reading over my liquid soapmaking book before I jump back in tomorrow, and I happened to stop randomly on a page with a big title 'Preservatives'. Guess what it advises you to use? Rosemary Extract or Vitamin E!!

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Man that is a bummer! It's so hard to get out the "right" message when there are so many resources out there that practice the "wrong" one. :roll: *sigh*

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I know what you mean. :x

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You would be surprised (or not) how many of the older books regard Vit E., Grapefruit seed extract or Rosemary oleoresin extract as preservatives.

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I've seen this book recommended so many times - even called 'the bible of liquid soaps' before. That's why I picked it up months ago... :?

Has a very orange and pink cover. :wink:

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Carrot root oil? :lol: That's a new one on me. I just went to their web site and used their contact button and wrote this.

"Handmade soaps do not need a preservative. The ones you list like Grapefruit seed extract and Vit E are anti-oxidants only. They help extend the shelf life of oils, but they are not preservatives, natural or otherwise. Carrot root oil is not an anti-oxidant or a preservative. Your info is misleading to those that are just starting out making soaps. I have been making soaps since 1969, so I do have experience in thise dept. I suggest that you change that info on your web site.
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Yep. My first book was The Soapmaker's Companion, and she recommends GSE as a preservative, even in bar soaps. It took some research to discover that it has been discredited even as a preservative, let alone in the water-and-oil emulsions she has recipes for.

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I remember when I read about Grapefruit seed extra when I firt started making soap.

And I had just finished 2 semesters of Chemistyr at University, allong with Microbiology.

In my mind I was like "Why would soap need a preservative? Salt doens't go bad!" (Or at least it takes a long time for the breakdown on the chemicals)

It never occured to me that Grapefruit seed extra would not even work as a preservative in the first place.

lol.

I'm glad I studied Chemistry. Although those courses were bloody difficult, and I'm not persuing a science background anymore. It came in handy when I decided to make soap. :)


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Kat, I am curious.... if you have given up science\chemistry what did you change to?

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Hi, I'm new here and just jumping in. So, regarding vitamin E: I'm looking into goatsmilk soap and wanted to know- will the vitamin E help it have a longer shelf life at all? Should I even bother adding it?

If so, when do I add it? (I can't seem to find this info anywhere.) Should I add it to the oils before mixing in lye solution? Should I consider it as part of the oils in the recipe?

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Thank you for the reply! :)


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