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 Post subject: Alchimia soap
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 7:52 am 

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Someone just brought me a big (10 oz) bar of soap in a fancy wrapper, made by an Italian company, Alchimia. Supposed to be 'hand made'. Here are the ingredients:

1. sodium palmate
2. sodium palm kernelate
3. water
4. fragrance
5. salt
6. glycerin
7. tetra sodium etidronate (a chelating agent similar to EDTA)
8. EDTA
9. hexyl cinnamal (a fragrance)
10. linalool (a fragrance)
11. hydroxy isohexyl 3 cyclohexene carboxaldehyde (or Lyral) - (a fragrance)
12. benzyl salicylate (a fragrance)

Note that item 12 is a restricted substance by the international fragrance foundation, known to cause allergies esp. to eczema sufferers.

The soap is white, no colours, and is incredibly hard. My wire cutter had no effect. I tried a soap knife and the soap shattered, not possible to cut it at all - it is extremely brittle. It does lather quite well but it is not a bubbly lather but more like a Castille type lather.

It seems to me that this soap is made using nothing but palm and palm kernel oil. Have you come across this kind of soap before? It seems to sell for around $11 (USD) per bar. Your comments will be read with much interest.


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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:13 am 
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Handmade? Not likely. It sounds more like a commercial made, triple milled soap, that has gone through extruders. The power of fancy advertising and labels.... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:17 am 

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That's what I thought. "Hand made" as in, "Someone's hand pushed the button to turn the machine on" :lol:
But to make it entirely of palm and palm kernel? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 10:20 am 
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Looks like it won't lather much.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:23 pm 

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It has the consistency of very hard candle wax and that is what it looks like. Doesn't make big bubbles.
Their Web site says "under construction"!


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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 12:37 pm 
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I found a label online. It says that it's Luxury Triple Milled Vegetable based soap bar Enriched with Natural Glycerin. So it is commercial made, not handmade. You cannot triple rebatch handmade soaps and have it come out as white, hard and smooth. It has to be "enriched" with glycerin because when commercially made soaps are made they take the glycerin out so it doesn't gum up the rollers. It is added back at a later stage. So it's just BS.

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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
PostPosted: Fri Aug 24, 2012 3:01 pm 

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Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
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But for the general public they would not know the difference. I did not until I started to study soap making. The public hears bits and pieces of what is good and bad. If fact many times the scientific community cannot decide if something is good for us...LIKE COFFEE!

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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
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Well it had me going for a while until I tried to cut it. Of course I am a trusting soul.


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 Post subject: Re: Alchimia soap
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Imagine cutting a bar of ice. It shatters. That is exactly what happened. Of course I was thinking 'hand made' haha.


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gosh! and how they like to put "special shampoo with the bestest of avocado oil" and the avocado oil in the shampoo goes on the last place, after fragrance, about 1%. And the list starts: aqua, sodium lauryl sulfate...methylparaben.. blah, blah, blah. :evil:

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