[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Array to string conversion
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Undefined variable: Array
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Trying to access array offset on value of type null
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Array to string conversion
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Undefined variable: Array
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Trying to access array offset on value of type null
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Array to string conversion
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Undefined variable: Array
[phpBB Debug] PHP Notice: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions_content.php on line 77: Trying to access array offset on value of type null
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 483: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/bbcode.php on line 112: preg_replace(): The /e modifier is no longer supported, use preg_replace_callback instead
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4752: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4754: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4755: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
[phpBB Debug] PHP Warning: in file [ROOT]/includes/functions.php on line 4756: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at [ROOT]/includes/functions.php:3887)
Teach Soap • View topic - New cream development

Teach Soap

Soap Making Recipes, Tips and Tutorials
It is currently Thu Nov 28, 2024 7:35 pm

All times are UTC - 8 hours




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: New cream development
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:04 pm 

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 782
I've started developing a formula, so I'm experimenting. The coconut oil didn't make me happy as previously noted.
I replaced the coconut oil with the same % amount of kpnangan butter, now 7.5%, also upped the stearic acid to 5%, and changed the emulsifier system from glycerol stearate / polysorbate 20, to glycol distearate / glycerol stearate / polysorbate 20, calculated on the HLB method in each case.

Emulsification has been perfect with no tendency to separate. Without the coconut oil, I no longer get the effect of an oily film on the skin for hours. It takes about 30 - 45 minutes to absorb, but then it leaves the skin very flexible and hydrated, with the typical 'dry powdery' feel you get from kpnangan butter. At the moment I'm not using any polymers or other specialist thickeners, and it's quite a thick cream below about 16C. The application feel needs improving; it has insufficient glide and it seems too watery even though it's quite rich in lipids.

The lipids are: kpnangan butter, capric/caprylic triglycerides, vitamin E, jojoba oil, stearic acid.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 4:35 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:14 pm
Posts: 24336
Location: Mistress Of Lather
If it feels too watery could you up the % of stearic acid?

_________________
Irena
Closed minds are like faulty parachutes; they refuse to open.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:00 pm 

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 782
I'd like to. I'll try it and see what happens. I don't want to use cetyl alc. because this is a face cream.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 8:38 pm 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:14 pm
Posts: 24336
Location: Mistress Of Lather

_________________
Irena
Closed minds are like faulty parachutes; they refuse to open.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 12:07 am 
User avatar

Joined: Thu May 31, 2012 10:49 pm
Posts: 134
Location: Germany
Why do you avoid applying Tylose, Carbomer, Guar or xanthan gum? Is there any specific reason?
They are actually emulsion stabilizers and viscosity enhancers, as you mentioned yourself, but add to the feel as well without any need to apply more oil or more emulsifier. the application dosage is much lower than that of emulsifier (0,1-0,2% would suffice). They contribute quite pretty to the sensory effects.

_________________
Genius is 1 % inspiration and 99 % perspiration


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 10:58 am 

Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:23 am
Posts: 1315

_________________
Carrie
Wife to my Best Friend and Homeschool mom to 7 beautiful gifts


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:54 am 

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 782


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:56 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:19 am
Posts: 1023
Location: Lewisville, Texas
I just made a beautiful cream for my face. I have been using it for a week now and I absolutely love it. Nice and creamy, applies nicely, soaks in after a few minutes and is not heavy.

60% Distilled Water
5% E-wax
5% Stearic Acid
2% Coco Butter
14% Sunflower Oil
14% Jojoba Oil
.5% Phenonip
.5% EO

It has not changed consistency either. I heated both the water and oils to around 70 degrees C and held it for 20 minutes or so. Then I let it cool to around 32 degrees C if I remember correctly. Well, then you know the rest of the process. It works beautifully. My husband doesn't like the smell I chose (lavender and patchouli eo's) but I like it just fine. He likes it in my tattoo balm that I make but I don't know why he doesn't like it in my face cream. He said I smell like soap. :?

_________________
Haven


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:52 am 

Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:23 am
Posts: 1315

_________________
Carrie
Wife to my Best Friend and Homeschool mom to 7 beautiful gifts


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:35 am 

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 782
hvrba, thanks for the recipe. Try replacing the coco butter with shea - the retinol in the shea will help remove photo-aging spots and fine lines.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:43 am 

Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:23 am
Posts: 1315

_________________
Carrie
Wife to my Best Friend and Homeschool mom to 7 beautiful gifts


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:21 am 
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 14, 2008 10:19 am
Posts: 1023
Location: Lewisville, Texas
I agree with you on the shea vs cocoa. I only had cocoa on hand though. As soon as there is more $$ for supplies, I plan on ordering some. I have a $500 wishlist at BB right now. :shock:

_________________
Haven


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:39 am 
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 14, 2008 11:14 pm
Posts: 24336
Location: Mistress Of Lather

_________________
Irena
Closed minds are like faulty parachutes; they refuse to open.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:52 am 

Joined: Sat Dec 31, 2011 10:23 am
Posts: 1315

_________________
Carrie
Wife to my Best Friend and Homeschool mom to 7 beautiful gifts


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 10:15 am 

Joined: Wed Dec 14, 2011 2:14 pm
Posts: 782
After a few weeks, the customer will be able to see for themselves! Then they'll be back for more, I hope.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 21 posts ]  Go to page 1, 2  Next

All times are UTC - 8 hours


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 6 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
[ Time : 0.253s | 11 Queries | GZIP : Off ]