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 Post subject: Re: Distilled water
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 12:27 pm 
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Snow is actually more contaminated than rain water. The flakes have a much larger surface area for collecting icky stuff on the way down.

Lye will kill pretty much everything in rain water, except particulates like chemicals (which aren't alive) and microbiol spores (or cysts). Spores are VERY hard to kill, nigh impossible in a non-laboratory environment. They are also the worst possible form of microbial contamination. Spores are responsible for a large majority of water borne and hospital borne illness. They could potentially live through the lye, saponification, and the cure and be left on a person when they use the soap. These little things have survived INSIDE rocks that formed from volcanoes 2 million years ago. Scientists collected them and introduced them to media (a food source, usually agar nutrient gel) and the darn things "hatched" and grew colonies of bacteria. They "hatch" when they have a food source, like dead skin cells on a human for example. These are found in tap and bottled (spring or filtered) water. The distillation process is impossible for the spores to travel through, as it requires a condensation step and the spores are too large to travel on water particles in the air.

Cities deal with these by chlorination, fluoridation, and huge UV light banks that drinking water travels through. Well water that tests positive for them must be run through a filtration system. Sometimes they still get through though. Giardia is a common infection caused by micro cysts that manage to get through the precautions in water treatment.

Okie, I'm done now LOL :lol: Can you tell I love microbiology? :oops:

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 Post subject: Re: Distilled water
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Eww giardia. We test poop for that at my work. :?

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My dog and I got it from bottled water last summer. It was NOT fun! Not a good reward for going on a nice long walk either! :evil:

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 Post subject: Re: Distilled water
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I've had it too - definitely NEVER EVER want to get it again! :lol:

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I think I'll try the filtered water next time since my rain water is really old. I havent made any soap for about a year becasue of some health issues, but now I'm doing a lot better so I'm going to be making some...
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 Post subject: Re: Distilled water
PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2012 7:19 pm 
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Good luck, Jerry! At least distilled water doesn't cost anymore than spring water. :)

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Usually distilled is the cheapest water at our local Rite Aid. Plus a gallon lasts a long time!

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Nope, I just keep the cap on it and don't touch it with anything that could be contaminated; soiled gloves or the edges of my measuring vessels. There are a few variables that dissuade microbes from growing in distilled water (osmotic differences etc). Even humans really shouldn't consume it, though I don't remember why exactly... and my books are in boxes in Canada. :|

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Heather, here is a good site that will give you information on the "Giardia" that you were talking about. http://www.medicinenet.com/giardia_lamblia/article.htm
Whether or not these things can, or even do live in soap that has gone through saponification is probably yet to be determined.
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 Post subject: Re: Distilled water
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Water purified by reverse osmosis is safe. That's what I use. I buy it in 30L bottles and use it for the house as well as products.


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Sounds like we should lock ourselves in the house when it rains or snows. And maybe boil everything that comes from the garden that could have asorbed anything from the rain???!!!

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