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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 3:39 am 
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I wouldn't really call my skill level 'soap art' at this stage, but for lack of a better title, we'll call it that for now. Tonight, I tried to combine my love of making very 'pretty' and cool soaps, with my new found addiction to CP soap making. I have a mold here that is a frog sitting on a lily pad.

This is it here: http://www.aussiesoapsupplies.com.au/fl ... oggie.html

I had an idea to do black dots for the eyes, colour in the suckers on his toes in a dark green, then do him light green, sitting on a dark green lily pad in blue water. I've tried a couple attempts with MP soap, but for the little amount I need to do the eyes and feet, it always goes hard and I'm re-melting it every 3.5 seconds.

After using black in one of my CP soaps today, I pinched a little bit and dotted out his eyes. It worked really well - that is, it was WAY easier for the finer details to do it with CP instead of MP soap. So tonight, I had a plan to make a single batch of CP soap, then disperse it between cups that had my colour in it, and do the frog soaps that way. I also pulled out some Dinosaur and Butterfly molds to try at the same time.

With the eyes already done, I grabbed my first cup of soap mixture, colored orange (was meant to be yellow, but either the scent discolored to orange or I don't know what happened) and started on the suckers. As expected, much easier. I even grabbed a paint brush and started getting a bit adventurous with painting the dinosaur's scales on the back. I was working quickly (almost frantically) as I could see my cup of soap thickening and knew I couldn't exactly remelt CP soap...

After spooning the rest of the orange soap into a spare mold, I returned to my pot to find my soap was going HARD! :shock: Moving the hand mixer broke the top, so, in a slight panic, I turned it on to see if I could re-smooth it all out. I couldn't. It was like lumpy mashed potatoes. :cry: Knowing I couldn't do fine details with that, I splashed in some color, wizzed it around for 10 seconds then started slopping the mixture into any mold close enough.

So... the point of this post :wink: How is it possible to make the detailed soap's with CP?

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Is it possible to do the finer details (dots, eyes, etc) with CP soap, then finish it off with MP? And if it is, do I need to spritz the alcohol on the CP stuff when pouring the MP in?

Did that all make sense? :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 9:39 am 
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Cute mold! You could try to make it as whipped CP soap a la Nizzy. http://nizzymoulds.com/Whipped/index.htm

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:24 am 
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Cool technique - will have to try one day. Looks like all their detailing is piped though. I wouldn't be able to use whipped soap to do the eyes and that on the frog. :cry:

Is it possible to do the finer details (dots, eyes, etc) with CP soap, then finish it off with MP? Or can you not mix the two?

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I have mixed the two. I also find it difficult to do fine detail entirly with CP. I usually use M&P for the detail and then use CP for the main pour. I have the leaf and ripples mold (got at otion when we visited this summer!) and want to do that with the leaf being M&P. I never thougth about using a pinch of a soap when soft for some detail... will have to try that. I have also done a M&P swirl into my CP soap and like the looks of that. Usually I do that to add a sparkle with mica or glitter and sometimes it is to add a FO that I know will morph or cause me trouble with CP. If I am adding M&P to imbed into CP I have spritzed with alcholol but do not really know if it is necessary. With the swirl there is no way to spritz and I have not had one come apart yet (stay away you gremlins !!).
I did purchase a bar once at a flee market, before I made soap that was CP in M&P and after a short time using I was left with all the different pieces of that soap. Also left my skin itchy so I am not sure if they used quality base???

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I do CP with MP on a regular basis. I use MP and a brush for the fine details. BrambleBerry has a tool kit that you can purchase to work with the fine details.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 4:57 pm 
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Here is the pics of what I was trying to do.

http://coolahcreations.com/blog/2011/12 ... detailing/

The eye on one-eyed Frank was my first step, but none of them stuck to the frogs. Of 8 eyes, only 1 came out. The rest are still in the mold. You can also see where I've tried to do the suckers, and had a bit of a play with the other molds. The yellow was last night's detailing. The rest of the mixture was slopped in best I could. Was very thick, so I think there's a few parts missing... I know one of the dinosaurs is missing a back leg. :?

Easier to link to the blog that post them all here :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 6:11 pm 
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I think you did pretty good for your first try. You can still give the froggies some eyes. Melt clear MP with black mica. Dip a fine, thin point brush and let one drop of the MP fill the eye area, or use the brush and carefully paint it on.

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I agree... they are very nice for your first try. You could go the route of soap painting. I do that to paint the eyes on my catapillars and bears. Why don't you try M&P for some of the accent areas of the molds and pour CP over. You may find that easier and like the results just as much.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:02 pm 
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Thanks ladies. I was going really well until the CP in the pot starting hardening up on me. And yeah, I think next time I will try painting the eyes on after. Or, I was thinking maybe putting some of those plastic googly eyes on! Just for fun hehe.

Question - how do you think those edible texta's would work on soap? They are the textas / markers you can use to do outlines and such on food. Would they stick to soap do you think? I was thinking of trying those to do things like the mouth lines or really tiny spots. Being edible, I figured they would be ok to wash with - although they would wash off yes, but still.

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Edible pens used for cakes bleed; badly.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 11:32 pm 
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Bugger. :?

I suppose normal markers / textas are out too? The ones kids use to colour?

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Well phooey. Coz I can colour in like a ... well, at least like a 5 year old! :lol: I thought I could sneakily improve my soaping skills.

I have no idea how I'll do a black line for things like mouths then! :?

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I would look up colored jojoa beads. That might work for you.

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Why don't you just make up some soap paint?

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