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PostPosted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:40 pm 

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a wonderful day to all :P

I need your help. I'm from Europa and there are not so many experiences for the use of SL 60% for soap. I have a few questions about the use of sodium lactate (SL) 60%

1) Dosage 1%-3% - that's ok?
2) If it is CP: SL 60% is added to the finished soap lye (water mixed with NaOH-Cystals) right?
3) Does the addition of sodium lactate permit gel phase ? It depends on the amount of addition?
4) At which time SL 60% must be added to the soap in hot-oven-process?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 6:31 pm 

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Erp a derp, I didn't read thoroughly enough through your questions... I answered for Sodium Acetate, not sodium lactate... I may be back with info that I find, if any...


Here we go...

"Sodium lactate is a natural humectant, moisturizer and pH regulator. For lotions replace the liquid glycerin with sodium lactate, in soaps use up to 1/2 ounce per lb of fats to harden the bar. Produced from renewable resources and completely biodegradable makes sodium lactate a better choice when moisturization is desired. Studies have shown sodium lactate to be a better short term and long term moisturizer than glycerin, our long loved friend. Try the tests for yourself.

Make your favorite lotion twice, once with glycerin and once with sodium lactate. Apply the lotion to your leg or arm twice daily for 2 weeks. We are sure you will notice the difference. Sodium lactate is less sticky when compared to liquid glycerin so if you are trying to formulate to make a less sticky lotion use sodium lactate instead of glycerin. Sodium lactate 60% USP."

Above information was found here: http://www.soapgoods.com/Sodium-Lactate-60--p-1440.html

So, as for your questions, I can answer the first one:

1) Dosage 1%-3% - that's ok?
The above paragraphs say that it's ok to use up to 1/2 ounce per lb of fats which works out to be 3% max usage.

I think Soapbuddy can answer the rest of your questions though as I believe she's used SL 60% in her soaps, too.

Good luck!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:36 pm 
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I use sodium lactate in every batch at about 1%. I add it to my lye water after it has cooled off.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:55 am 

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@soapbuddy
Thanks for the reply. ;-) With 1% SL, it should be correct.

But there are two questions left

I want my soap gel! I can still mix 1% SL to the lye?
I've heard that the Oil/Lye-Blend remains flowable for a hot-process if admitting SL. When should I add the SL?

Sorry to annoy so. with my questions

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:06 am 
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If you want your soap to gel, you can still add the SL to your cooled off lye water. The exception to this would be if you do hot process. You can add the liquid SL after the cook to make glopping into your mold easier.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:55 am 

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Hi soapbuddy, :wink:

thank you so much for your help to gain clarity

I summarize
Cold Process: I add the NaOH to the water. Therefore the water is heating-up. Then I must cool down the mixture. And now I add SL

Hot Process: I cook the soap, and finally I add to SL, so I can better fill in the form

so good that you're here

best regards and a nice evening
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