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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 5:56 am 

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I wanted to buy a soap cake from a woman and she won’t tell me how big or if she uses glycerine or anything!

This is the ingredients list for the soap base :

Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Stearate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, coconut, Sodium Laurate, Sodium Myristate, Triethanolamine, Sodium Cocoate, water, Titanium Dioxide, Perfume.

wipped cream : Glycerin, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Stearate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, coconut, Sodium Laurate, Sodium Myristate, Triethanolamine, Sodium Cocoate, water, Titanium Dioxide, Sodium Chloride, Cocomide DEA, Cocomidopropyl Betaine, Lauramide DEA, Glycol disterate, sodium benzoate, perfume.

And I buy everything from B&B and this is what is listed as the ingredients from them

Coconut Oil, Palm Oil, Safflower Oil, Glycerin (kosher, of vegetable origin), Purified Water, Sodium Hydroxide (saponifying agent), Sorbitol (moisturizer), Sorbitan oleate (emulsifier), Soy bean protein (conditioner)

so well I have never bought my M&P from anybody else so I don't know this ingredients she list, only thing I see is too much sulphate and I know they are not good for your skin, so I was wondering if I should pass on buying from her :)

I am not trying to steel her recipie or anything :)


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Me personally, I would pass...too many ingredients, and not to tell you what size?


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Personally I would just pass because she won't tell you what size. I wouldn't pay for something without knowing how big it is.

With the ingredients, that's a personal thing. Some people have problems with some that are listed and some are fine. As for the Sodium Laureth Sulfate, remember that's not the same as Sodium Lauryl Sulfate.

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I would pass, too, just based on the neglecting to post the size of the soap. Otherwise, the ingredients are found in a M&P base, though I'm not exactly sure which company this lady has bought from, or if she makes it herself. It seems to me like many of the ingredients she's using are a bit outdated.
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Sodium Laurate: "When lauric acid is neutralized with a base like sodium hydroxide, a laurate salt is produced. Sodium laurate is much more useful as a surfactant than lauric acid because it has a much higher water solubility. Sodium laurate is widely used in bar soaps and cosmetics because it is mild to the skin and leaves skin feeling soft. Still, its water solubility is too low for many important applications like detergents and shampoos. Many bath soaps and detergents in the 50s and 60s used sodium laurate as the principal active ingredient; however, it tended to leave a bathtub ring in the bath tub, it left hair feeling “heavy”, and repeated washing of clothing tended to make the clothing gray because of a build-up of deposits of the surfactant on the cloth.
Hence, sodium laurate was replaced by sodium lauryl sulfate. The sulfate group is much more water soluble than the carboxylate group. The gives the surfactant much better tolerance to cold water and much better tolerance of salts found in water. Sodium dodecyl sulfate is one of the most important commercial surfactants of our day." http://www.surfactantassociates.com/Lib ... sld006.htm

But after going down the list of ingredients and looking up what they all are and what they're meant for, there seem to be some unnecessary items listed there and some duplicates of what they provide in the soap... :( There are a ton of salts listed (Sodium chloride and Sodium Myristate which would lead me to think that this soap was more formulated for people with oily skin and may be a bit drying for people with normal -> dry skin?

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PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 7:21 am 
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If she can't give you a weight, then something isn't right. How would you know if the price is fair or not without a weight?


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ditto, ditto, ditto


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