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Why would Pentasodium pentetate a chelating agent used to bind and sequester metal ions be in a M & P base?
Why would Tetrasodium Etidronate which is a diphosphonic acid derivative also be in said M & P base?
I am no scientist, but this just doesn't seem like what I want in my soap base. I lost my SFIC soap base supplier, and was just looking around online trying to see who's out there.
This is getting a little difficult, are there any east coast suppliers out there? Where do others that live on the east coast, Philly area get their M & P bases from?

They are chelating agents and used as water softeners. They have been deemed safe to use in soaps and cosmetics. They sound scary but they're not.
When they're talking about "bind and sequester metal ions" they mean metal ions in hard water like calcium and magnesium. They bind and form stable compounds, which makes better foaming and cleaning.
They're not necessary in soap, but they're not necessarily harmful either.
If you're looking for suppliers in your area, you can check out suppliersbystate.com
Natures Garden Candles is in the East, I don't think they're base is SFIC, though. They do have some really nice "natural" bases though.

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Wintermoon,
What I can't understand is that not many soap bases I have read about has that in them. I think it would scare people away.
I like SFIC, but that supplier on the east has stopped doing business. I'll check out the one you mentioned. I guess, I am used to SFIC.
That's what I have been using for quite some time. If I sold soap it would be worthwhile to buy 262 lbs, but I don't.

Hi, flowergurl4eva! The Bramble Berry bases (NOT their bulk bases) are SFIC, but if you're looking for a supplier closer to you, Elements Bath and Body carries SFIC bases:

http://www.elementsbathandbody.com/Soap ... c-218.html

Elements is in Kentucky - not quite the East coast, but way closer than Washington state. I'm in Florida and get my stuff from them within about 3 days usually. I hate to steer business away from BB, but I've been really happy with Elements, too.

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They seem to be a little more expensive then BB bases though. I also hate that I have to wait a week or more to get my products. I will probally give them a try just to see.
Thanks for the link.

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Soapies-Supplies carries SFIC. It's in Arizona but it's a little cheaper than Elements.
http://www.soapies-supplies.com/shop/m_p-soap-base/
Plus sometimes you can get it in their leftovers from their fastbuys for about $13-$14 for 5 lbs.
She has great customer service and is another great biz to buy from. Her newsletters are fun to read each month also.

Symphony Scents is in New York and they also carry it. I've ordered some fo's from them. They had good customer service.

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