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 Post subject: additive question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 9:22 am 

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I found a recipe for pumpkin soap that has actual pumpkin in it. Would love to try it but want to cut the recipe down.
I can figure out all the oil oarts with soapcalc but how do you figure out the ratio when adding something extra to
your soap? (not just pumpkin..)

Basically wondering when you are creating/trying a new recipe how do you know how much to start with (pumpkin,
cucumber etc)?

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 Post subject: Re: additive question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 11:16 am 
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What is the original recipe and how much pumpkin are they using?

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 Post subject: Re: additive question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:08 pm 

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20.5 oz Coconut oil
22.4 oz olive oil
18 oz palm (which I am converting to lard)
4 oz shea butter

9.5 oz lye
16 oz water

8 oz canned pumpkin
16 gm grapefruit seed extract
4 - 6 oz pumpkin pie fragrance oil

My mold holds a total of 35 oz


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 Post subject: Re: additive question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 12:20 pm 
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that's a lot of pumpkin for that recipe. i'd use more like 22 oz of water, and cut the pumpkin back to 4 oz max. since you're resizing the recipe to roughly half, you're going to end up with about 2 oz of pumpkin. as a general rule, you want your water amount to be at least twice the lye weight, just to insure that the lye dissolves completely.

while i'm at it, they're high on the FO - i think 4 oz should be the max for the original recipe size. that's 1 oz per pound of oils, which is kind of a handy guideline for the upper limit on most fragrances. with something like "pumpkin pie" there's a good chance it's going to have a spice component, which will be more likely to speed up trace and overheat. you can probably go a good deal lighter, say .7 oz ppo, and still have a nice strong scent.

and ditch the grapefruit seed extract, it isn't going to do a darn thing in this formula except cost you money. they probably have some idea that it's going to preserve the pumpkin, but that's not true for a number of different reasons.

man, i'm just full of opinions. lol.

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 Post subject: Re: additive question
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 Post subject: Re: additive question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 1:36 pm 
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Well while we're at it with opinions :lol: :lol: :lol: does anyone have a clue if this should have some type of use by date, or if it needs a preservative or something to keep it from well I dono molding? This is very interesting!

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 Post subject: Re: additive question
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as long as any added veggies or fruits are well pureed and mixed, the shelf life is the same as any other soap. chunks get NASTY. and soapbuddy's right, i wouldn't do it with M&P either. :)

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 Post subject: Re: additive question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 2:47 pm 

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When you are making up your own recipe and want to add stuff like this is there a general rule
of thumb to start with? (ex 1% 1 tbsp etc)


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 Post subject: Re: additive question
PostPosted: Mon Apr 12, 2010 6:46 pm 
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Thank you soapbuddy and thank you magic. How cool is that the pumpkin saponifies!

Does pureed pumpkin add special properties to soap, lather or feel, or is it used as an aesthetic touch like color?

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