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 Post subject: Test batch questions
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:17 am 

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My questions are:

1) Will I be okay if I use EVOO (30% of the total oils) or will I have too soft a bar? With the castor oil that's 35% soft oils.

2. Should I add the melted shea at light trace? I know that shea can speed up trace but this is a small amount. OTOH, it's a small recipe.

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 9:50 am 
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Technically olive oil is not a soft oil. Olive olive will harden nicely once the soap is cured. Add everything (oils/butters) at once as the lye will take whatever it wants up to 24 hrs. after the soap is poured.

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:03 am 

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Thanks, soapbuddy! I read a post that said that EVOO makes a soft bar. I didn't word that well in my last post.
I'll follow your instructions. Appreciate it :)

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch question
PostPosted: Sat Jul 18, 2009 10:38 am 
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You're welcome and good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch questions
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It traced in under five minutes. No joke! Barely used the SB. It turned a beautiful yellow as soon as I started blending. I soaped at 110 degrees. I hope this batch turns out well. My house smells like wild honeysuckle in June. Mmmmm. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Test batch questions
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Florals usually trace faster. As long as everything got stirred well you should be ok. Don't insulate this one too much, so it doesn't overheat.

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch questions
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Spatula is harder to mix with. Try a stainless steel whisk next time. Once gelling is complete, it should lighten up, but it won't be as light as an ungelled batch.

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch questions
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Ungelled batches take longer to saponify, so the soap could be softer in the beginning and you might need gloves to cut it.

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch questions
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Soapbuddy,

You were right on target. Gelled batch has lightened but isn't as light as the refrigerated batch, which is a shade lighter than butter. Lovely. Cut both. (Wore gloves)

Looks like the gelled batch did fine. I don't see anything hinky.

Also I'm thinking the recipe is contributing to quick trace. The castor oil and the shea butter, maybe? I just finished a batch w/ BB's Sensuous Sandlewood FO. If there are floral notes in that I didn't smell them OOB.

Blended with whisk for 2 minutes. SB for one. Used whisk again. Well blended but reached trace in 4 minutes. Soaped at 110 again. Not that I mind having a batch ready to pour that fast, it was easy, but I won't be able to do any coloring with this recipe unless I infuse the oil.

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You're welcome. Glad it worked out for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch questions
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You might try dropping the temp a little. Sometimes the extra heat can speed up trace also. It would be worth the experiment especially with your non floral scents.

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 Post subject: Re: Test batch questions
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Soapbuddy,
I just cut the sandalwood batch that I made yesterday evening. Gelled batch. It has lighter swirls throughout it, but I didn't do any swirling. I actually like the look, but um, I'm not sure it's supposed to look this way. Did the tongue test. No zap.

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