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 Post subject: undercutting
PostPosted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 2:46 pm 

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Hello, Could someone please tell me how to pour undercut colors when pouring in a silicone mold? TIA


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 10:55 am 
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Hello! I would love to help you but am not sure what you mean by 'undercut colors' if you can explain or maybe show a pic or something I am sure we can get some ideas going! :D


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:52 am 

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Bramble Mama, Thanks for your response. I purchased some petroglyph molds from Acorn Soap & Candle. Their ad says "These eye catching flexible molds allow you to create beautiful soaps, but are works of art in themselves. Their interesting flexibility allows for undercutting, producing realistic natural shapes."

http://www.acornsoapncandlesupply.com/c ... D=82425768

You can see examples at the url above. What I am trying to figure out is how to get the terracotta, turquoise and grey colors to blend together. I am assuming because the molds are flexible that as one color drys you can pour another color and squeeze the mold so it flows under in places. Is that what they mean by undercutting? Does anyone have any hints on doing this? TIA
MJ


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:45 am 
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Ok - I'm still not sure on what they mean by 'undercut' but here are a few ideas to achieve the same look.

1. Soap Paint. Fill the mold with your soap as you normally would then when the soap has hardened remove it from the mold and paint in the indented design with soap paint.

2. Double Pour. Again fill the mold with soap as normal then when it is hardened, remove it from the mold and get a dropper full of melted soap and carefully fill in the indented design.

3. Mica. This would be my last option. You can brush some mica on the inside of the mold and then fill it in with soap. Pour carefully or you will wash away the mica that you brushed on the mold. You can pour to the side or onto the back of a spoon. When the soap has hardened this mica will wash away fairly quickly.

We have a tool kit that PJ designed that would be very helpful in getting the detail to show through here; http://www.brambleberry.com/Hardware.aspx

Or on that same page you can just get a dropper and a mini scraper. :D


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:47 am 
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To get the three colors in the background you can tilt the mold as you pour in one color, let it sit a minute then do the next, and again with the third. The tool kit again will be very helpful for thinning out the edges of each color to make them look more blended. :D


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 4:54 pm 
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"Undercutting" is a term used in the mold making industry. With plastic molds (because of their limited flexibility) can not easily release portions of the soap that have more than a 90 degree angle. Silicone does not have this limitation because it can be virtually turned inside out it can release nearly complete spheres.

I do have a silicone mold that I have to tip and inject soap in order to complete the object in it's same color. Tip, pour, let harden, spray with alcohol and pour again (as often as needed).

Sometimes undercuts in silicone molds can capture air bubbles as well, to prevent this spray the inside of the mold itself before pouring in your soap, then tap the sides to nudge any air pockets out.

Paula (who just won Best Soap at the GA Spring Fling! This was the winner: Image

YAY!

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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 5:40 pm 
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Congrats on your winning PJ!

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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 12:47 pm 
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Yes, congrats! That soap is amazing! Thanks for the explanation! :D


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:29 pm 

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Wow PJ! Beautiful!
Thanks everyone for the tips. Will be pouring this weekend!
MJ


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2009 5:13 pm 

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Very well deserved PJ!


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 Post subject: Re: undercutting
PostPosted: Tue May 26, 2009 12:37 pm 
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Wow PJ, does it ever end :!: :D

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