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PostPosted: Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:03 am 
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Ok. So I have a recipe for lotions that I love. I would like to make it a tad thicker for more of a cream consistency. Would I reduce the amount of water and add more solids? I also love the addition of tapioca starch to reduce the "greasy feel" when using cocoa butter. That is currently the only butter I have. I also have fractionated coconut oil and jojoba oil. I have stearic acid, citric acid, bees wax, and emulsifying wax. Phenonip is the preservative on hand. I only want to make a small batch (like 4 oz) since I am running out of my ingredients and don't have the funds to re-up on them at the moment. Any suggestions? Thank you in advance.

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Lotioncrafter has a nice formulary. I would try there. Don't forget to convert any ozs. to grams for such a small batch. I hope you have a very accurate scale for the small amount of preservative that you will need.
http://www.lotioncrafter.com/lotioncraf ... ulary.html

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Oh wow, thanks Irena! I missed that they have a formulary!

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The problem is, I don't have the ingredients listed on most of their recipes. What is the lowest amount of water you would use for a cream? I am looking for something along the lines of a cold cream but using the stuff I have. I can do a larger than 4 oz batch but I do have a good accurate scale. My lotion recipe uses 70% water. If I bump it down to say 60% is that too low? I would think it could be ok since there are products you can make without water. Maybe I can just play a little bit today. Thanks.

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60% would make a cream that's too thick. I wouldn't go below 70% and even then it will be heavy.


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Here is a tutorial by Kim, she is one of NG's testers. She uses 60% water for a cream.

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If you have Polawax or E-wax in your recipe, you don't need cetyl alcohol or stearic acid. It really depends on the rest of your formula.

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I've read both ways oil into water and water into oil. It doesn't SEEM to matter. But I am still learning too, so I dunno for sure! :?

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