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 Post subject: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:06 pm 

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I made Goatmilk & Honey and Goatmilk, Honey & Lavender logs yesterday from my own recipe which I use as a reliable base for goatmilk soaps, but the honey in the logs look like tiny brown specks (?) everything went well, for the Goatmilk & Honey log I added the honey at a light trace and stired it in with a s/s whisk poured it into the pipes (no specks at this stage) put my towling socks I made over the pipes and put up - I then made the Goatmilk, Honey & Lavender getting to a light trace again, poured 1/4 of the mix into a smaller bucket and mixed in the honey, lavender oil and violet colour with a whisk drizzled the coloured mix around into the plain goatmilk mix to get the swirl - once again all looked great but taking a peek this morning both the G & H and G,H & Lav (swirls are there) logs have these tiny specks!!!! For the G & H I made a 2kg batch so put 3/4 cup of pure organic honey and for the G,H & Lav only a 1/4 and a "bit" as that batch was only 1kg. I'm thinking perhaps too much honey (?) - could anyone help please??


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 Post subject: Re: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:45 pm 

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Oh heavens to betsy!!!!! I just read a post from the 10th January about Honey Soap and Ssoapbuddy suggested to JGLMom to only put 1 teaspoon of honey in a 4lb batch - oops!!!!, with 4 lbs being about 1.8 kg I guess I did over do it a tad with 3/4 of a cup of honey for a 2kg batch.

If anyone has any hints about honey in Goatmilk Soaps I'd appreciate it.

Cheers
Ness


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 Post subject: Re: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 2:52 pm 
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That sounds like too much to me. Those spots could be from overheating or the honey recrystalized. I have seen people use as much as 1 TBS of honey per lb. of soap. With that much, my soaps will overheat.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:01 pm 

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I made mine earlier this week - 2tsp for 4 lbs of soap. I was nervous to do anymore than that. Hope you can salvage it!


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 Post subject: Re: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:23 pm 

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OK!!!! Please don't anyone have heart failure on me!!!!! I got a little confused with Celsius and Fahrenheit.........I bring all the oils and lye mix down to 90deg. F......not 90deg.C - sorry about that.

I remember the first time we made soap.....we had the temp on Fahrenheit and the soap came out this wild orange/mustard colour - scratched our heads on that one until we realized what was happening!!!!!

But thanks to Soapbuddy it seems I was a tad heavy handed on the honey - only 2 teaspoons next 2kg batch and not 3/4 of a cup!!!!

Have a magical day people
Ness :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:27 pm 

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I hope those of you who read my post will come back and re-read it again..............we just un-moulded the logs of G & H and G,H & Lav, the "specks" have gone and the log is a rich golden honey colour and smells sooooooo good!!!!! I'll leave it for a couple of days before we cut the logs - I'm going to have to call this one "Goatmilk & Golden Honey" :lol: :lol: :lol:

The specks have also gone from the G, H & Lav but the violet colour has faded to a dull matt mauve colour but you can smell the honey and lavender oil.

Cheers
Ness


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 Post subject: Re: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:41 pm 
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Sounds like it worked out for you Ness.

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 Post subject: Re: Too Much Honey ????
PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 10:57 pm 

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Thanks Irena - it really is all trial and error and when a mistake is made like that I sure won't make it again!!!!! I have to work on colours now - a wholesaler here is Australia (All Colour Supplies) is sending me samples (for free :o ) of Water Soluble food colours, Cake food colour, Cosmetic Pigments and some dispersions to try in the goatmilk soaps which is good of him - it's taken me 2 years on and off of researching soap making before we finally felt confident enough to try it and boy it was really worth the time and effort for us - our first batch turned out....well it didn't really turn out all that good - but until this honey episode all out soaps - goatmilk and emu oil - have been great. I formulated a recipe which we stick to for a goatmilk base, same as the emu oil recipe, basic swirling is easy so I'll try column next but colours make me stop and doubt myself - ha!!! only hope that doesn't take 2 years.

Talk soon & thanks for your comments :D
Ness


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