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 Post subject: Re: New Molds
PostPosted: Fri Jan 06, 2012 1:27 pm 
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Thank you, Soapbuddy.

I'm going to do some research myself.

ConnieNYC is an excellent source of information. She's always sure of her facts before she speaks.

Who would have thought apple juice contained arsenic all these years?

I will open my windows & use a fan.

I don't feel secure in using them if there is any chance of arsenic leaching out into my soap.

If I won't use it myself, I won't sell it.

I have another source in Taiwan I have emailed for information.

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Look up Bebe molds online. I have some of their molds and their silicone doesn't smell. Good luck!

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Thank you, Soapbuddy :O)

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Soapbuddy, these molds are beautiful! Thank you so much!

Here's the link:

http://www.bebe.idv.tw/

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 Post subject: Re: New Molds
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Did a little more research ...

The silicone used for trays and loaf molds is NOT the same as that used for decorative shape molds. There's a lot of discussion online about baking with silicone molds. A lot of that discussion ends with serious bakers refusing to use them for a variety of reasons (mostly uneven baking and that they hold on to smells).

Here's an interesting article on white film and foul odor coming from a particular brand of ice cube trays.

http://matthew-rowley.blogspot.com/2011 ... icone.html

Early indication, in the article, was that the film was due to hard water, but that's debunked when someone experiments with distilled water. Some say vinegar wash helps. Others say it doesn't. So, no real definitive explanation of the film. Bottom line in the article -- people don't like the molds and wouldn't use/buy again.

Most interesting thing I learned six months ago is referenced in the article - "Silicon is a natural chemical element found in great abundance on Earth, primarily as a major component of common sand. Silicon is generally found in a crystalline form. Silicone is a man-made substance derived from silicon and other chemicals, and it may be a liquid or a rubber-like plastic polymer." People often use the words interchangeably. They are two different things. Silicone uses silicon as one of its ingredients. And, as with all chemicals, there are good vendors/sources and bad ones. It's the "other chemicals" that is always my concern. In my mold making I only use name-brand silicone specifically intended for crafting molds and theatrical prosthetics and masks. Decorative mold makers use what's referred to as "Platinum" silicone for its elasticity, durability and ability to capture fine detail.

My concern with some mold makers is that if they are trying to save money, cut corners, or rush the process and are not willing to share the formula/technique/ingredients they use to make their molds, we'll never know what's in them. A "food-safe" designation in Taiwan is not necessarily the same as one issued here. Even the FDA and USDA are sometimes wrong. There are many mold makers who prominently say, "NOT food-safe." Those mold makers I trust. Not being food-safe doesn't mean it's not safe for soap or wax.

My soap wouldn't hurt you if you ate it, but I don't recommend you try it. I recently did 300 soap flower favors for a wedding, and although tagged very prominently "SOAP - DO NOT EAT," several guests did. I was glad to hear no one got sick.

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 Post subject: Re: New Molds
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2012 4:30 pm 
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Thank you ConnieNYC

PLEASE everyone be very careful where you buy silicon molds.

I baked mine last night - couldn't stand the smell - shut the oven off!

I just sanitized them in the dishwasher. It is 20 degrees out & snowing. I now have all my windows open, fans running & trying to decide if I should leave the house because the smell is so bad!

DIY molds will not give me any information about what is in these molds. I am out $45.00+. that's a lot of soap to sell!

I measure the cost of everything these days with how much soap do I have to sell to buy something!

I am sending these molds back, but I don't expect to receive any refund. I am reporting them to Etsy & PayPal.

Shop in the USA has new meaning for me now!

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That's too bad. I would do a chargeback with Paypal. The reason? Item not as described.

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Item stank me out of my house :shock:

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Thank you, Soapbuddy. I have never done a charge back in PayPal. I will call PayPal & tell them what happened.
I sent DIY a convo that I was sending the molds back. Their reply was "You pay the Shipping".

I can't believe people use these for making chocolate candies! That's scary!

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If you go to your transaction in PP, there should be a link at the bottom of that transaction that says:
"If there’s a problem with this transaction, you can attempt to resolve it directly with the seller by reporting it in the Resolution Center within 45 days of the transaction."
I would do that first before you contact PP. If you decide to call, here are the numbers that I have used.
1-866-877-4983 or
1-888-221-1161

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Thank you, Soapbuddy

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 Post subject: Re: New Molds
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I opened a dispute for both molds in PayPal.

It's going to cost me $45.00+ to send them back to Taiwan and I don't know about tracking. I paid $62.00 for the 2 of them.

If I give them negative feedback on Etsy, they will just turn around & give me negative feedback!

If PayPal finds in my favor, do I have to send them back? Will they be required to pay the shipping back to Taiwan?

What a scam!

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