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 Post subject: Oil seepage
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 9:13 am 

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Hi everyone! I made a 4 pound batch last night with a successful recipe that I've been using for a while now. I make two separate batches because half is using cream. I think as I started writing this I have my answer :). The other half had apples which of course added sugar. The problem is that I have a LOT if oil that seeped out.


Here's my recipe (I made 2 batches of it) and I mixed at 120 degrees.

9.6 oz Coconut oil
9.6 oz Palm oil
6.4 oz Rice bran oil
4.5 oz Soybean oil
1.9 oz Sunflower oil
4.5 oz lye
10 oz liquid (for each batch I used 5 oz water to mix the lye, one batch had the remaining 5oz mixed water and apple baby food, the other was 5 oz cream that was added to the oils before the lye)
2 tsp ground hemp seeds
2 tsp ground rosehips
7 grams stearic acid in each half
2 oz each of Crisp Apple Rose FO in each batch

The apple batch was moving slowly, I only stick blended a little though. The cream batch of coursed traced faster but not too thick. Everything was fine until I added the FO. The apple batch immediately seized as i tried to stir it in and was super hot. I couldn't even plop it on the mold. I added about an ounce of water to try and loosen it - I got suds but it did loosen. So I alternated plopping in the mold both batches. The cream batch accelerated but was still manageable. I put the mold in the oven at 150 for a couple hours then turned off the heat. This morning I see the oil. Any advice or feedback? I've never had this happen before.

I apologize this is long I wanted to give as much detail as possible. Thanks for any advice!


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 Post subject: Re: Oil seepage
PostPosted: Tue Jul 16, 2013 10:00 am 
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Here are my thoughts.... I didn't run your recipe through a lye calc.
Cream has natural sugars and fats.
Apples have natural acid, which neutralizes some of your lye and also have natural sugar.
For the 10 ozs. of water, did you separate the water AFTER you added the lye, then divided it up?
Stearic acid accelerates trace. You mixed at 120, which is pretty hot.
If the soap seized after you added the fragrance, it could be your fragrance.
As far as the oil on top, it sounds like it overheated, due to all the sugars.

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 Post subject: Re: Oil seepage
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 Post subject: Re: Oil seepage
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Since you separated the water before adding half of the lye to each part of the water, it's possible that your lye strength solution was too strong. That can accelerate trace too. It's best to mix all the lye and all the water together first before you separate it. Or recalc your recipe into two separate recipes. If the recipe is small, it's best to work with grams instead of ounces.

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