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Teach Soap • View topic - What's a good soap formula 4 very sensitive, eczema&rosacea

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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2011 6:04 pm 

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Hey all-
I have a friend that is requesting a moisturizing soap bar that will be good for her eczema & rosacea. She said she's pretty sensitive to scents too. Would a clay based facial bar be good for her? What are your recommendations?


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Clay is very drying. I'm not sure that would be a good choice. I would add a small amount of shea or mango butter to the MP base and see how that works for her. I normally recommend a castille soap to customers that have mild eczema problems. Rosacea can flare up with just about anything including a change in weather or temp of water. So I'm not sure on that one.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:25 am 

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I wouldn't use clays in a soap for the eczema, either.

This is what I would do. Pick up the Soap Sample kit from Brambleberry (7 lbs of soaps: 1 lbs each of white, clear, shea, goats milk, hemp, aloe vera, and honey). Have your friend try a small slice from each of the soaps and see if she has an adverse reaction to any of them. The eczema will not be helped very much during this time- we're looking for adverse affects of any of the soaps. If she does, don't use that type of soap in your final batch for her.

Some additives that would be great for healing and moisturizing dry skin:

Avacado oil- Known for its healing and regenerative properties. Also good for dry, dull dehydrated skin, aging skin and eczema. penetrates easily. Contains Essential fatty acids, minerals, protein, Vitamins A, B, D, E and beta carotene.

*Cocoa Butter - Cocoa butter not only smells fantastic, it also provides desirable moisturizing qualities. This butter makes an excellent skin softener as it is not easily absorbed and thereby lays down a protective layer that holds in moisture.

Evening Primrose - This oil is taken from the seeds of the flower and is rich in polyunsaturated fatty acids such as linoleic. It is effective for a number of skin conditions including eczema and psoriasis.

Mango Butter-It has great emolliency and lends a protective effect against the sun. It is said to prevent drying of the skin and formation of wrinkles. It reduces degeneration of skin cells and restores flexibility.

Olive Oil - This oil is moisturizing and is mild and by itself (castile soap) produces a very mild soap suitable for small children or those with sensitive skin.

Shea Butter - Also called Karite butter & made from the fruit kernels of the shea nut tree of West Africa. Shea Butter benefits the skin in many ways:
• Due to the presence of a sizeable quantity of unsaponifiable fats, its content in vitamins and other active elements; Shea butter is in a league of it's own when it comes to soothing, moisturizing and protecting qualities.
• It has been shown to assist in cell regeneration & capillary circulation which helps in the healing of small wounds & skin ulcers.
• It has restructuring effects on the epidermis and on dry, fragile hair and has been shown to help with dermatitis, eczema, minor burns and sun burn. In the cosmetic field, this makes Shea Butter a natural asset against skin aging.
• It also displays a protecting role against UV rays because of its content in cinnamic acid.
• It has an anti-elastase characteristic which makes it a good active ingredient against stretch marks.
• It is very well tolerated by the skin and it does not normally trigger any allergic reactions. This makes it an excellent choice for use on sensitive skin areas such as the area around the eyes.

(above information pulled from: http://www.peeptoadhollow.com/Benefits.htm)

*Instead of using and EO or FO which could cause a reaction, you could use the Cocoa butter (unrefined) to add a chocolate scent to the soap :)

I would also recommend putting in sugar as an exfoliate to get rid of the dead skin cells. Sugar also helps to bring balance into the skin's natural oils.

Off the top of my head, if I were to use the above information, this is the recipe I would come up with (for a 2.5 lb batch):

20 oz. Shea M&P
10 oz. Aloe Vera M&P
1 TBS. Avocado Oil
2 TBS. Cocoa Butter
1 TBS. Evening Primrose Oil
10 oz. Sugar

Melt the Shea and Aloe Vera M&P together. Add Cocoa Butter and mix in well heating in the microwave in short bursts until it's mixed in completely. Add in Avocado Oil and Evening Primrose Oil. Work really quick with the next step because the soap will want to set up really fast. Dump sugar into the bowl, stir it in fast and pour into your mold fast. Drop the mold on the counter a couple times to get the soap into the corners and help release bubbles.
If you'd like to add some color to the white, you could always melt down a couple ounces of the Hemp M&P, spritz the soap that's already in the mold with some rubbing alcohol and pour the Hemp M&P over it until the mold is nearly full. Let it sit on the counter several hours and unmold it. Cut it into bars. I usually let my soaps sit out in the open over night before I wrap them (I live in a dry state, so they don't sweat on me).

For those of you who are saying "There's not enough sugar for a sugar scrub!" That's not what I'm intending the bar to be. The sugar will help exfoliate a little bit, but I mainly put it in there for its ability to help promote the skin into bringing about a natural oil balance in itself... I'm not a doctor, nor claim to be even remotely close to an expert on this subject of eczema and rosacea, so please don't take the above soap concoction as a fix-it-all recipe. I haven't made it myself, let alone tried it. I do know that the Shea M&P and Sugar has been working for a friend of mine who has dry flaky skin but not so bad as to be called eczema.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:35 am 
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I don't add more than 1 TBS. of any additives total to 1 lb. of MP base. For this recipe

20 oz. Shea M&P
10 oz. Aloe Vera M&P
1 TBS. Avocado Oil
2 TBS. Cocoa Butter
1 TBS. Evening Primrose Oil
10 oz. Sugar

since it's 30 ozs., I would subtract 1 TBS of the cocoa butter since you would get less lather. If this was my recipe, I would not add more than 2 TBS of any additives total. YMMV.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 8:40 am 

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I realize you'd be losing the lather as well, but since the cocoa butter is a "hard" additive, I thought that 2 TBS would be alright without making the soap too soft? It's fine if the Cocoa Butter if marked down to 1 TBS, though :)

If I were to rewrite it, how does this sound?

20 oz. Shea M&P
10 oz. Aloe Vera M&P
1/2 TBS. Avocado Oil
1 TBS. Cocoa Butter
1/2 TBS. Evening Primrose Oil
10 oz. Sugar

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2011 12:08 pm 

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That sounds good! I need to put an order in soon so I'll post how it goes :D


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:44 am 

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I loved this recipe! I'm a beginner and have been giving this soap out as gifts. I actually just made gift baskets and used these in there as baptism gifts for my sisters kids and she loves them on their skin! I'm thinking of having all my soaps be on the gentler side, and if someone requests more scent, I can add whatever they want. Thank you so much!!

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:33 am 
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Avocado butter, shea butter and coconut oil are great for eczema and dry skin.

If it's for face use, I use the following recipe as a cleansing bar, which doesn't lather up at all... but I use by wetting and applying like soap. Massage around face, and then remove with a wet flannel. It leaves lovely feeling skin! Makes sense that it ought to work well for that kind of skin too. Though the aduki beans are fairly gentle, you might want to swap them for jojoba beads for really sensitive skin. It's adapted from something Lush used to make, which I loved, and then they stopped making! (So I found a recipe and made my own!). You could also swap/add essential oils at the end which are good for that kind of skin. Jasmine is pretty good with sensitive skin, and frankincense is a wonderful oil. I'd check whether she's allergic to lavender before using that, as some people are. It's a bit of a marmite ingredient as far as people's skin is concerned!

70g Cocoa Butter
40g Shea Butter
20g Coconut Oil
15g Jojoba Oil
1bsp Ground Almonds
1bsp Aduki Beans Ground (OR you can use salt/sugar/jojoba beads)
2 drops of Lemon Oil
2 drops of Tea Tree Oil
2 drops of Lavender Essential Oil (?)

You melt the butters and oils, then stir in the aduki beans, and add the essential oils last. If you're swapping the aduki beans for jojoba beads, you'll need to let it cool a bit before you add those, or they'll just melt in!

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 20, 2011 3:39 am 

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I'm a soaper and Rosacea sufferer so here's my input :)

I use NO soap on my face, it only takes a hot cup of coffee, cold wind, anxiety or indeed eating a curry sometimes to have instant redness and ouch. I often just cleanse with a lotion. It's not that I'm against soap on the face as such, my face doesn't like me messing with it at all very much.

However for soap, I think the GM Cocoa butter or shea butter are all good options for sensitive skin

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