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panzerakc

Post subject: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 3:54 pm

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Can a flavoring made with propylene glycol be used in lip balm? I'm wanting to know if it is compatible with an anhydrous product like lip balm.

Thanks.

Anita

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soapbuddy

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:40 pm

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Hestey

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:08 pm

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I've used the ones with PG that you get in the baking section for flavoring frostings and chocolates etc. Only for personal use though!

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panzerakc

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:34 pm

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Well, poop.

I got a "we don't know, but you're welcome to buy some and experiment" answer from the company. However, I came across a flavoring of lip balm discussion on another B & B forum, and the answer seems to be that propylene glycol is NOT oil soluable.

That's a real shame, as this company carries a snickerdoodle flavoring, that is, alas, PG-based.

Rats!

On a brighter note, someone recently requested a lime lip balm from me. I'd never made lime, but have the EO, so dived right in. I was very pleasantly surprised.

Anita

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soapbuddy

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 9:43 pm

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If the company doesn't know Anita, I wouldn't chance it.

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Hestey

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 10:46 pm

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I've been using propylene glycol based flavorings in lip balms for a long time (18 years ish, forget when I made my first lip balms). Never had an issue with it separating or anything. It is designed for use in butter/shortening based frostings and waxy chocolates.

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Genny

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:26 am

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Location: Western WI

Isn't propylene glycol a solvent for oils? So wouldn't that make it oil soluble? I worked in the cake section of the baker for almost 8 years and every flavoring we had contained propylene glycol. They were all used, like Hestey said, in the butter based frostings.

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citymouse

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:10 am

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Location: Pittsburgh, PA

Is lime safe for lips? I thought most citrus EO's could cause sun burn it applied topically (phototoxicity)?

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SudsyFun

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:20 am

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Genny

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 8:44 am

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It also matters how the eo's are extracted. Steam distilled lime is supposed to be non-phototoxic or so I've heard.

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soapbuddy

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:46 am

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I use bergaptene free citrus oils for lip balms.

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panzerakc

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:00 pm

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Genny, you and Heather are getting my hopes up again! :lol:

I might get a teensy bottle of the snickerdoodle, and use myself as a guinea pig.

Anita

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PyrateWench

Post subject: Re: Type of lip balm flavoring

Posted: Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:18 pm

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I used BB's margarita flavoring with just a couple drops of a lime EO mixed in and it was very yummy lime flavor.

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