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 Post subject: Separation
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 5:55 pm 

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Wanted to know if there was anything I could use to keep my liquid products from seperating?


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 Post subject: Re: Separation
PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2011 6:13 pm 
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Which liquid products? A shampoo? Is this something that you are making or is this a base?

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 Post subject: Re: Separation
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It is a base, so far it has only been the milk bath (not purchased from brambleberry), but I am worried my other products will do the same thing. It took about a month after mixing in the fragrance and dye. Is there an extra ingredient that I need to add to help keep it from seperating or did I just get a not so good product?


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 Post subject: Re: Separation
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 6:26 am 

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Did the fragrance oil separate from the base, is that what you mean? I don't know the ingredients of the bath milk (I've never seen a base for it before), but I'm assuming it has water in it. Water and oil do not mix, so if your fragrance oil is not water soluble then it won't mix with the bath milk without using an oil modifier, like polysorbate.

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 Post subject: Re: Separation
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yes I think that is what happened. What can I use to fix it? Is there something commonly used or should I look at getting a diffrent oil?


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 Post subject: Re: Separation
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I agree. You need to mix the fragrance with some polysorbate first.

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 Post subject: Re: Separation
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I found some on brambleberry, but there was 20 and 80 which do you think would be better to use? Does it need to be mixed with the fragrance first before mixing into the product, or can I mix it all at one?


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 Post subject: Re: Separation
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 11:31 am 

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For what you need, you'd want to use polysorbate 20. You mix equal parts fragrance oil to equal parts polysorbate 20. Then after that's mixed well, add it to your bath milk base.

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 Post subject: Re: Separation
PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2011 7:49 pm 

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Thanks for all your help!! It is much appreciated. I really love this forum it is great for new soapers like me. There is always more experianced people to help, lol. :mrgreen:


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