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 Post subject: LIP SAFE E/O
PostPosted: Sun Feb 27, 2011 1:16 am 
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While trying to find lip safe essential oils, as BB does not carry the ones that I would like, I found this e-How article http://www.ehow.com/how_4450466_make-ve ... -balm.html that gives a list of E/Os that they say are lip safe... My confusion with this is that some of the ones listed here are not shown as being lip safe in the BB site. For example, on the E-How article the following are listed as lip safe, but they are not listed as lip safe at BB.
CLOVE - FENNEL - GRAPEFRUIT - LEMON - LEMON GRASS - LIME - ORANGE - PEPPERMINT
so.. I guess I am trying to find out, if I buy these E/O from BB, are they really lip safe? I would love to find an almond lip safe essential oil.

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I would take that online article with a grain of salt. Clove is an irritant. I would not use it in a lip balm. I don't know about Fennel. Orange in a lip balm can make your lips more sun sensitive. There is no almond essential oil. Your best bet is a almond flavor oil that's lip safe.

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I just now found this site that has FCC Grade flavor oils. The prices seem good too, and they have my almond! woo hoo! I only wish that BB carried more selections of these kind of oils. Even though its necessary sometimes to buy outside a site you've come to trust, I really do not like doing so. I'm the type that stays with a company and/or salesperson that I feel takes the time to take care of my issues/concerns. That being said, I really need an almond EO that can be used in lip balm. I am trying to make sets with my fragrance choices. And unfortunately, BB has limited EO/FO that are lip safe.

Another good site for lip safe flavor oils... http://www.pvsoap.com/flavor_oils.asp

One more question...can zinc oxide be added to lip balms? And if it can, at what rate?

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Zinc oxide can be added to a lip balm, but you cannot claim any sunscreen properties or ANY SPF. If you do, it becomes a cosmetic or over the counter drug with expensive testing, which the FDA requires. If it was me, I would just leave it out.

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Since a lip balm will be ingested anytime a person licks their lips, make sure that it's lip safe. Not all zinc oxide is.

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Tammy, where do you get sweet almond EO? I don't know of any almond essential oil.

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Ok, I still don't think of sweet almond oil as an essential oil. It's a base oil that's not distilled like EO can be and it will not add any flavor to a lip balm.

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Glycerin based extract will seep out of a lip balm formula that only contains butters or waxes. If you want to add it, you will need a lip safe emulsifier and a preservative.

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I was just reviewing scents on WSP and they have a bitter almond "all natural" fragrance oil, with good reviews. Theirs in diluted in soybean oil and has great reviews. It says that it is safe in lip products at a 0.10% usage rate.

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