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 Post subject: Re: Shampoo
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:31 am 
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I think it depends by what you mean expensive. $6 for a bottle of shampoo is inexpensive to me. $70 (US) on the other hand is a different story. There is a place here in Palm Springs where they sell upscale bath and body products. It is not a chain. I went there once, looked at the ingredients on some of their products, looked at the prices they charge and walked right out! :lol: Some of bottles were upscale and pretty, but the ingredients were VERY similar to what the Dollar store offers every day.

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 Post subject: Re: Shampoo
PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 1:00 pm 

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I've come to the conclusion that most consumer goods are retailed at ten times the cost of ingredients.
I wish I had realised this a long time back . . .
We sell through outlets such as hairdressers and spas. They normally demand at least a 40% discount and often want 50%. This means that CP soap is not a product we can offer through those outlets because the cost of ingredients is high. The retail price would be offputting. For instance, Esenza in DF offers wholesale prices of MX$140/kilo and their product is pretty good. But retail won't support a price of more than about MX$30 per 100g bar. The margin is 53% then, for those who buy wholesale and sell retail.
Consider a shampoo, though. Cost of ingredients about MX$6, bottle and label say MX$4, total MX$10. Retail say MX$70 (eg Caprice). Margin = 86% (wow). Big difference. Not to mention that once you've spent the time perfecting the formula, it is way, way easier to make shampoo!


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:37 pm 
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The "organic" shampoo was basically the exact same as a grocery store brand for 3X the price and was only about 10% organic material. The "natural" shampoos had about 60 ingredients, the second on all 3 was SLS or SLSa; the only thing in there with a higher concentration was water. Neither had any soap ingredients (ie oils or lye). So all of them were just the same junk you get at the grocery store only with a bunch of herbal EOs and a lot of promises. Blarg!!! The liquid soap we carry is actually soap at least! Olive oil, coconut oil, glycerin, and KOH with lavender EO. So we were 1:5 good to crap ratio. Can't wait to get my ingredients and make my own shampoo, that is actually soap and not a bunch of surfactants and thickeners.

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