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PostPosted: Wed Jan 26, 2011 3:42 am 
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I want to make a Shave Lotion Bar (for men).

I really like Swift's recipe, and will probably base mine on this:

SOLID SHAVING BAR
HEATED PHASE
60% Incroquat BTMS (or 30% BTMS, 30% Incroquat CR)
10% cetyl alcohol
10% butter of choice - 5% cocoa butter, 5% something else, if you wish
3% cationic polymer like honeyquat or condition-eze 7 (polyquat 10)
5% oils - I 'd suggest shea oil (2.5%) and fractionated coconut oil (2.5%)
2% hydrolyzed silk protein
2% another hydrolyzed protein of choice

COOL DOWN PHASE
2% panthenol
2% dimethicone
2% cyclomethicone
2% fragrance or essential oil

But I would like my bar to lather up a bit. I know the lather probably doesn't make it work better and is for show mainly, but I think people like a bit of lather.

So... do I just add a couple of surficants to make that happen?

I have SLS, SCI and Cocamide DEA in my ingredients box right now. Can anyone recommend which to use, how much and at which stage please?

I've also seen a couple of websites mention adding bentonite clay to shave bars, as apparently it adds slip and slide. I have some of this in my ingredients too, just wondering if anyone thinks its a good idea, and how much of that I need to add!?

Thanks! Magia x

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I experimented with something like this last year and never came to a successful conclusion. It was either too draggy, too drying, no lather, or too greasy.

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2011 4:31 am 
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Huh, guess I'll have to produce a few samples and foist them onto one of my male friends for a verdict!

Did you keep any record of what didn't work...? If you would share, I might be able to avoid remaking those. I'll let you know if I find something that does work!

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I've kept the results on a piece of paper, but since my experiment didn't work, I put that paper away somewhere...

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