Teach Soap

can anyone tell me what is in the base of FOs? I've got customers ask me that all the time. And I've not got a good answer for them. Also Id like to know since I buy them.

I doubt you will find out. It's a propriatary info, the perfume houses guard with their life.

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Irena
Closed minds are like faulty parachutes; they refuse to open.

No one knows..... it's just what soapbuddy said 'proprietary information'. We (BB) have asked some vendors before and they won't really tell us anything. Even if we ask about a specific ingredient for allergy purposes they give us a hard time....

What you can get is an MSDS (Material Data Safety Sheet) these are different for each fragrance. If you ask your vendor for one of these, legally they must give you one. It does not give you the ingredients but gives you a lot of info on the oils.

That does not seem fair, since we should be listing all of what we add to our soap on the labels! I can understand them wanting to protect their interest but still think disclosure is better. Could you post a sample of one of the MSDF sheets? I would be interested in seeing one... just choose a simple and favorite flavor... please?

Susie

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Susie
Sometimes A Mistake is so much fun, You just have to do it again!

All you need to list on your label is "fragrance". At least in the US you do.

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Irena
Closed minds are like faulty parachutes; they refuse to open.

OK can anyone just put me in the ballpark about what ingrediants are common in them? do they contain EOs?

Some contain eo's in the base notes, many don't. They're strictly synthetic.

This is a cut and paste of a MSDS that I requested from another vendor last summer after I got one of their fo's on my skin and it burned like fire. I've removed their name and identifying information. I tossed their fo's.
As you can see, the ingredients, all of which are on the EPA's Inventory of Toxic Substances, are considered a "trade secret."
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MATERIAL SAFETY DATA SHEET
PREPARED FOR:
XXXXXXXXXXXX SUPPLY
Address
Name of fo

HAZARD RATINGS
Health – 1
Fire – 2
Reactivity – 0
0 = nil, 1 = slight, 2 = moderate, 3 = high, 4 = severe
SECTION 1 – PRODUCT IDENTIFICATION
XXXXXX ( name of fo): NAP
SECTION 2 – HAZARDOUS INGREDIENTS - The ingredients in this fragrance mixture are considered by XXXXX XXXXXX SUPPLY to be a trade secret in accordance with the provisions of the OSHA Hazard Communication Standard (29 CFR 1910.1200).
SECTION 3 – PHYSICAL DATA
Boiling point: NAP
Specific gravity: 1.019 – 1.029
Vapor density (air = 1): >1
Odor threshold: NAV
Melting point: NAV
Solubility in water: Insoluble
Evaporation rate: NAV
% Volatile @ 70°F: NAV
Odor and appearance: A pale yellow to yellow liquid with pleasant odor.
SECTION 4 – FIRE AND EXPLOSION HAZARDS
Flashpoint >168° F (TCC) LEL, UEL: NAV
Hazardous Products of combustion: CO2, CO, other unidentified products of combustion.
Extinguishing Media: Use dry chemical, foam or water spray.
Special Fire Fighting Procedure: Use self-contained breathing apparatus (SCBA) and fire fighting clothing.
Unusual Fire and Explosion Hazards – None known.
SECTION 5 – REACTIVITY DATA – This product is stable and presents no significant reactivity hazard. It does not react violently with water and no hazardous polymerization will occur. Contact with highly concentrated acids, alkalis or oxidizing agents must be avoided.
(above emphasis mine)

SECTION 6 – TOXICOLOGICAL PROPERTIES
As required under Title II Section 313 of the Emergency Planning and Community Right to Know Act, we are reporting the following chemical content in the following compound being purchased from XXXXX Supply.

DIETHYL PHTHALATE (DEP) CAS# 84-66-2 27%

Possible routes of entry: Skin Contact, Skin Absorption, Eye Contact, Ingestion, Inhalation. Exposure Limits: NAP
This is a compounded mixture that has not been tested whole on humans or animals. Individual components present at 1% or more have the following hazards when tested at 100% concentration:
Acute hazards: Liquid and vapor may be irritating to skin, eyes, mucous membranes, throat and lungs. Repeated contact may cause allergic dermatitis. Toxic, may cause serious health effects if swallowed.

Chronic hazards: Repeated ingestion has been shown to cause nervous system damage in laboratory animals. Similar effects have not been reported in humans.

MSDS for Name of fo xxxx
SECTION 7 – PREVENTIVE MEASURES
For maximum personal protection, handle fragrances in a completely closed system.
Ventilation: Employ local exhaust ventilation meeting ACGIH design criteria.
Respiratory Protection: Not normally required in well-ventilated areas. If vapor levels are high due spillage, or if the product is heated, or if other abnormal conditions exist, use a full-face NIOSH-approved organic vapor respirator.

Eye Protection: Wear NIOSH-approved goggles or shields when handling. Eye wash stations should be available.
Skin Protection: Wear oil and chemical-resistant gloves when handling. Safety showers should be available.
Handling Procedures: Avoid inhalation and eye and skin contact whenever possible. Use good personal hygiene practices. Wash thoroughly after contact with the skin and at the end of each work period. Contaminated clothing and shoes should be laundered or cleaned before reuse.

Storage Requirements: Store in a cool, dry, well-ventilated area. Avoid heat sources. Keep containers closed and upright.

SECTION 8 – FIRST AID PROCEDURES
Inhalation: Leave the contaminated area immediately and go to a fresh air source. If breathing is difficult contact a physician.
Eye Contact: Wash eyes immediately with copious amounts of water for 15 minutes or more. Contact a physician if irritation persists or vision problems occur.
Skin Contact: Remove any contaminated clothing as wash the exposed skin thoroughly with soap and water. Contact a physician of irritation persists.
Ingestion: Contact a physician immediately.

SECTION 9 – SARA TITLE III INFORMATION
SARA 312 Hazards: Fire ( ), Pressure Release ( ), Reactivity ( ), Acute ( X ), Chronic ( X ).
SARA 313 Toxic Chemical Disclosure: This proprietary mixture contains the following material(s) subject to SARA 313 reporting: NONE
SECTION 10 – OTHER INFORMATION

All ingredients in the mixture are listed on the US EPA’s Inventory of Toxic Substances (TSCA); the EEC’s European Inventory of Existing Commercial Chemical Substances (EINECS) or List of Notified Chemical Substances (ELINCS); Environment Canada’s Domestic Substances List (DSL) or Non-domestic Substances List (NDSL); the Australian Inventory of Chemical Substances (AICS); and the Philippines Inventory of Chemical Substances (PICCS).

Contains no materials Known by the State of California to cause cancer or reproductive toxicity (Proposition 65).
EU Classification: Xi, R-22-38-43

SECTION 11 – MSDS PREPARATION INFORMATION
Prepared for: XXXXX Supply Date: June 11, 2008
The information documented in this MSDS has been obtained from current and reliable sources; however it is provided without any warranty, expressed or implied, about its correctness or accuracy. Since the use, handling and disposal of this product is beyond XXXXX control, it becomes the responsibility of the user to determine safe conditions for the use of this product in his own facility and to assume liability for loss, damage or expense resulting from the product’s improper use. Federal, State and Municipal government agencies may have specific regulations concerning the use, storage, handling, transportation and disposal of this product that may not be delineated in this MSDS. The user should review such regulations and comply accordingly.

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