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 Post subject: Alternative to Palm Oil
PostPosted: Wed Mar 19, 2008 10:30 am 

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What is a good alternative to Palm Oil for CP?


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If I'm remembering my oils correctly, palm oil itself is often used as a replacement for tallow. I would think that you could get away with using lard or vegetable shortening in its place, as well.

Hopefully I've got the right oil. I'm always mixing up palm oil and palm kernel oil in my head. :D


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I agree, Lard is the obvious replacement.

Babassu Oil can also work but it's also a form of Palm so if you're trying to skip Palm because of the current environmental movement, the Babassu won't do a net positive result.

Palm is a secondary lathering agent and there aren't really any oils that act similar to it in saponified soap.

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By lard, do you mean Crisco? Or is there something that is 100% of one type of oil, not some kind of mismatch? Would 100% Soybean shortening be the right type oil? I'm just trying to see what kind of options there are if I decide to stop using Palm oil. Sorry for all the newbie questions.


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Oh yeah, wanted to add that I wanted to stay to only vegetable oils, not animal fats.


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Lard is rendered pig fat. I usually find it under the brand name "Manteca" in places like Wal-mart. My first recipes used lard, but I wanted to switch to an all-vegetable recipe. I replaced the lard with soybean oil shortening and didn't notice any appreciable difference in texture, lathering, or consistency of my bars.

And shortening's cheaper to boot! :D

You have to be careful, though, and read the ingredients. Many brands of shortening are unidentified vegetable oil blends or, worse, a combo of vegetable and animal fats. It's virtually impossible to calculate a consistent SAP value for your soap when there's no way of knowing what fats and oils are in the shortening or what their proportions are.

I highly recommend Susan Cavitch's "Soapmaker's Companion" as a resource. She's got a section where she describes many of the more common soap-making oils, their effects, and how they react in CP. There's even a table that shows what each oil contributes to the soap (hardness, lather, etc.).


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