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PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:29 am 

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I was reading another soap forum :shock: in which someone mentioned that she had added lavender buds to her cold process soap and the buds turned brown. The experienced soaper suggested that if the newbie really wanted to add lavender buds to make the soap and let it cure for a couple weeks. Then rebatch and add the lavender buds. My question is not about adding lavender buds, my question is about adding the more expensive butters and oils. Do you think adding those to a rebatch would avoid their being consumbed by the lye? I would guess that you'd add only a very small amount of the expensive butters or you might get an oily soap. What do you think?

I've heard that it's best to use the hot process if you want to increase your chances of the expensive oils not being consumed. I've heard that hot process soap is more difficult to make smooth and pretty though. Is it a one or the other - choose which is more important to you decision? I haven't tried making hot process soap, but it doesn't sound any more (and perhaps considerably less) difficult than making liquid soap. Making liquid soap kicked my butt :|

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 Post subject: Re: Adding Stuff
PostPosted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:55 am 
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You can add a small amount of a butter to rebatch, but if the soap is newly made, some of the molecules still will change places. There is no way to know if all of your superfat oil or butter ends up as superfat. The problem with that is that you might get less lather and less bubbles if you add too much. With hot process, the texture of the soap is more like mashed potatoes, so it's more difficult to get the soap nice and smooth.

I would just add all your oils and butters up front and not bother adding expensive oils to the mix. Soap is a wash off product, unless you are after label appeal.

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 Post subject: Re: Adding Stuff
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 5:36 pm 

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Hmmm...adding ingredients for label appeal when I know in my heart of hearts that the expensive ingredient doesn't really make a difference kind of goes against my grain. I may experiment with some of the other ingredients out of curiosity.

I know some of you will think that I haven't been making soap long enough to be selling, but I have followed most of the advice offered. I've been selling my soap at a farmer's market in a town not far from where I live. I'm selling my soap pretty cheap and have still broken even each week (paid for the space and the materials but not my time). I'm content with that for now. I've noticed that none of my customers have read the ingredients. They're primarily interested in the smell. When I was giving soap away to everybody and asking them to try it and let me know if they liked it they all said they liked it and it smelled nice. I had to ask specific questions to get more information than that out of them. "Oh yeah, the lather was nice"... "Yeah, it washed off clean"...

I guess the nose knows.

Barbara


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 Post subject: Re: Adding Stuff
PostPosted: Sun Aug 14, 2011 6:04 pm 
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Barbara,
Your testers are most likely used to store bought soap. Anything handmade is a step up. If you want the testers to give you feedback, I would not give them another bar til you get a feedback from the first bar. Email them your questions, so it's easier for them to answer.

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